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Re: Early British walking draglines

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:16 am
by FOWLER MAN
Hi,
To continue, Newton Chambers went on to produce a range of machines under the NCK banner till 1958 when they joined Ransomes & Rapier. The deal was secured through an exchange of shares and NCK Rapier was formed.

R&R continued to produce the Walking Draglines but cranes and excavators were discontinued in favour of the NCK range. In the 1960s I worked on a R&R 462 1.1/2 yard face shovel in a local quarry and on a 205, several 305s, a 405 and a 605 with the Cardiff Plant Group.

It was 1963 before Kohering, who had an eye to the walking dragline business, took a financial interest in NCK Rapier with a 40% stake , again secured by exchange of shares.

No walking dragline ever carried the NCK or Kohering name, nor, as far as I know, did Kohering have any influence on the design.
Dragline production ceased in 1965.

In 1972 all production ceased at the NC works at sheffield and was transfered to the R&R works at Ipswich.

To sattisfy demand production of the "Walkers" resumed in 1976 and the W2000 still only carried the Rapier name.
The business finaly closed in 1987. In 1988 Bucurus Erie bought the rights to the walking dragline designs.

Below is the W1800 opperators view of 40 yard bucket, all about the W1800 in next post.
Fred
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Re: Early British walking draglines

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:32 pm
by modelman093
Did you know R&R tried their hand at tractors?? .


Love that image of the RR crawler. Looks like a similar Roadless track design that Ransomes used on their little horticultural MG series crawlers.

Re: Early British walking draglines

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:48 pm
by hair bear
modelman093 wrote:
Did you know R&R tried their hand at tractors?? .


Love that image of the RR crawler. Looks like a similar Roadless track design that Ransomes used on their little horticultural MG series crawlers.


I would say close to identical to the Roadless E27N crawler.

Re: Early British walking draglines

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:37 pm
by FOWLER MAN
hair bear wrote:
modelman093 wrote:
Did you know R&R tried their hand at tractors?? .


Love that image of the RR crawler. Looks like a similar Roadless track design that Ransomes used on their little horticultural MG series crawlers.


I would say close to identical to the Roadless E27N crawler.


Hi,
I wonder if Roadless made the running gear for them :?: :?:
Roadless Traction started in 1919 so it's quite possible. :think:
Fred

Re: Early British walking draglines

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 10:17 pm
by modelman093
I wonder if Roadless made the running gear for them :?: :?:
Roadless Traction started in 1919 so it's quite possible. :think:
Fred

They either made them it or licenced the design to Ransomes. Definitely Roadless's design. On the My Old Machine forum there's a chap who is nearing completion of a complete rebuild on a Ransmes MG2 (Market Garden tractor) serial number 137 and the rubber jointed tracks are of an identical design - just a lot smaller!

http://myoldmachine.com/topic/1801-rans ... umber-137/

Re: Early British walking draglines

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:43 pm
by hair bear
Just followed that link and lost the best part of an hour reading it! Anyone spot the MG40 dozer in the early pics?
I wonder if he'd let me take it for a spin...

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Sorry :offtopic:

Re: Early British walking draglines

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:33 am
by Hugh Jaleak
For anyone interested there is some rather grainy footage on Youtube, courtesy of Roly Billings, of Sundew 'walking' from Exton in Rutland to Corby, Northants during the summer of 1974. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvGKooeMJ54

Re: Early British walking draglines

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:16 am
by modelman093
Just followed that link and lost the best part of an hour reading it! Anyone spot the MG40 dozer in the early pics?
I wonder if he'd let me take it for a spin...


The same owner has an MG with a Whitlock front loader and also one to which he has attached a back hoe that was marketed in France as an attachment for MGs.He also has an MG Skimmer which was a reworked MG specially adapted for removing "sand" from water filter beds. A whole new take on Classic Plant!

Re: Early British walking draglines

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:37 pm
by Dah
Not sure the link took me to the right sundew video? It was at the top of the cut in the snow - didn't look very summery!

Re: Early British walking draglines

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:56 pm
by FOWLER MAN
modelman093 wrote:
I wonder if Roadless made the running gear for them :?: :?:
Roadless Traction started in 1919 so it's quite possible. :think:
Fred

They either made them it or licenced the design to Ransomes. Definitely Roadless's design. On the My Old Machine forum there's a chap who is nearing completion of a complete rebuild on a Ransmes MG2 (Market Garden tractor) serial number 137 and the rubber jointed tracks are of an identical design - just a lot smaller!

http://myoldmachine.com/topic/1801-rans ... umber-137/


Hi,
Well spotted Angus.
I've done some research and yes, Roadless Traction did make the tracks for the Ransomes & Rapier RT50 and for the small MG crawlers too.
It,s easier to ask who they didn't make tracks for. Ill post some pics in a new "Roadless Traction" thread in tractors.
Fred