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Hot open cast

Post #1 by martyn williams » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:10 pm

You would not need cab heaters on this job.
[video]http://youtu.be/DKFFsd9tbGY[/video]


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Re: Hot open cast

Post #2 by 38RBSII » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:15 pm

...or heated bodies on those dump trucks!


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Re: Hot open cast

Post #3 by martyn williams » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:50 pm

When I was in tech at Swindon they were digging out hot ash from what used to be the loco ash pits.This site is now the Oasis centre.
The material dug out there looked just as hot as in this video.
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Re: Hot open cast

Post #4 by Renaultman » Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:48 pm

Amazing videos. Correct me if I'm wrong but as a child I remember something back in the 90's. Didn't walters mining do something similar with an underground fire in the vallies somewhere.


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Re: Hot open cast

Post #5 by martyn williams » Wed Dec 26, 2012 7:50 pm

I think you are right, :think: perhaps Graham will remember.
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Post #6 by gah1950 » Wed Dec 26, 2012 9:11 pm

B100 LOADER wrote:I think you are right, :think: perhaps Graham will remember.
Martyn

hello martyn & geraint,
yes walters did tackle a tip fire that gave trouble for years at brynlliw near pontardulais,we had a couple of 245s and a fleet of volvos plus other items of plant,it got so bad on occasions that the county council used to close the M4,but that was back around 1998 iirc and there is no problems there since.
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Post #7 by Renaultman » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:36 pm

This contract was awarded to Walters UK after substantial media coverage allocated to a burning tip adjacent to the M4 motorway near Swansea. As well as producing health hazards to the local community, the M4 Motorway was closed on 8 separate occasions during the preceding winter due to smoke fumes.


The contract involved the excavation of approximately 200,000m sq of burning material, transferring it to a temporary cooling area and finally placing it into the fill area thus extinguishing the fire and producing a landscaped area in excess of 12 HAsuitable for future amenity and recreational use.


Due to anticipated problems with gases such as sulphur dioxide and hydrogen sulphide, as well as fine dusts, strict measures and controls were introduced to protect the health and safety of the workforce after close liaison with the Local Authority and the Health and Safety Executive.


In particular, the cab of the main excavator, a CAT 350, was fitted with Walters designd air conditioning inlets, leading to a 3m high snorkel located on the rear counterbalance. This skorkel was fitted with a dust filter and charcoal filter to 1.5 micron to protect against the toxic gases and dust. Extra seals were fitted throughout the cab and an additional fan was fitted on the line to the snorkel to provide positive pressure.


These measures, together with a strict scheme set up in the locality to monitor air quality, proved successful and the project was completed without incident.






This contract was awarded to Walters UK after substantial media coverage allocated to a burning tip adjacent to the M4 motorway near Swansea. As well as producing health hazards to the local community, the M4 Motorway was closed on 8 separate occasions during the preceding winter due to smoke fumes.


The contract involved the excavation of approximately 200,000m sq of burning material, transferring it to a temporary cooling area and finally placing it into the fill area thus extinguishing the fire and producing a landscaped area in excess of 12 HAsuitable for future amenity and recreational use.


Due to anticipated problems with gases such as sulphur dioxide and hydrogen sulphide, as well as fine dusts, strict measures and controls were introduced to protect the health and safety of the workforce after close liaison with the Local Authority and the Health and Safety Executive.


In particular, the cab of the main excavator, a CAT 350, was fitted with Walters designd air conditioning inlets, leading to a 3m high snorkel located on the rear counterbalance. This skorkel was fitted with a dust filter and charcoal filter to 1.5 micron to protect against the toxic gases and dust. Extra seals were fitted throughout the cab and an additional fan was fitted on the line to the snorkel to provide positive pressure.


These measures, together with a strict scheme set up in the locality to monitor air quality, proved successful and the project was completed without incident.






This contract was awarded to Walters UK after substantial media coverage allocated to a burning tip adjacent to the M4 motorway near Swansea. As well as producing health hazards to the local community, the M4 Motorway was closed on 8 separate occasions during the preceding winter due to smoke fumes.


The contract involved the excavation of approximately 200,000m sq of burning material, transferring it to a temporary cooling area and finally placing it into the fill area thus extinguishing the fire and producing a landscaped area in excess of 12 HAsuitable for future amenity and recreational use.


Due to anticipated problems with gases such as sulphur dioxide and hydrogen sulphide, as well as fine dusts, strict measures and controls were introduced to protect the health and safety of the workforce after close liaison with the Local Authority and the Health and Safety Executive.


In particular, the cab of the main excavator, a CAT 350, was fitted with Walters designd air conditioning inlets, leading to a 3m high snorkel located on the rear counterbalance. This skorkel was fitted with a dust filter and charcoal filter to 1.5 micron to protect against the toxic gases and dust. Extra seals were fitted throughout the cab and an additional fan was fitted on the line to the snorkel to provide positive pressure.


These measures, together with a strict scheme set up in the locality to monitor air quality, proved successful and the project was completed without incident.


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Re: Hot open cast

Post #8 by Renaultman » Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:37 pm

This contract was awarded to Walters UK after substantial media coverage allocated to a burning tip adjacent to the M4 motorway near Swansea. As well as producing health hazards to the local community, the M4 Motorway was closed on 8 separate occasions during the preceding winter due to smoke fumes.


The contract involved the excavation of approximately 200,000m sq of burning material, transferring it to a temporary cooling area and finally placing it into the fill area thus extinguishing the fire and producing a landscaped area in excess of 12 HAsuitable for future amenity and recreational use.


Due to anticipated problems with gases such as sulphur dioxide and hydrogen sulphide, as well as fine dusts, strict measures and controls were introduced to protect the health and safety of the workforce after close liaison with the Local Authority and the Health and Safety Executive.


In particular, the cab of the main excavator, a CAT 350, was fitted with Walters designd air conditioning inlets, leading to a 3m high snorkel located on the rear counterbalance. This skorkel was fitted with a dust filter and charcoal filter to 1.5 micron to protect against the toxic gases and dust. Extra seals were fitted throughout the cab and an additional fan was fitted on the line to the snorkel to provide positive pressure.


These measures, together with a strict scheme set up in the locality to monitor air quality, proved successful and the project was completed without incident.

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Re: Hot open cast

Post #9 by FOWLER MAN » Thu Dec 27, 2012 9:46 pm

Hi,
In the real world before Health & Saftey regulated everyting and contractors used experience, skill and common sense to overcome such problems, and people were more tollerant, burning tips were commonplace in the South Wales Valleys.
When Llanwern Steel Works was built at Newport convoys of tippers ran from the Valleys 24 hours a day for a couple of years, ferrying " Red Shale" fill to Llanwern site.
Red Shale was the product of burnt or burning slag heaps. Many dormant tips reignited as the excavators disturbed them and let air into them, particularly the older tips witch had a higher coal content.
There was a problem tip at Merthyr on the site now occupied by the Hoover Factory. Wimpey were the main contractor and large quantities of red shale from the first phase were used to build the Merthyr Slip Road but most of it eventualy went to Llanwern.
The tip ignited and the whole area was shrouded in smoke and yellow fumes for months and when it rained the area was plunged into a fog of steam.
More recently, (1980s), at Mountain Ash when I had the contract to move about a mile of railway sidings for National Smokeless Fuels so that the main road could be realigned, R.J. Budge moved a burning tip allongside us as part of the scheme. It was not too pleasant but presented no major problems.
Graham gah1950 will also probably know of the tip at his home village which caused a few problems when Ryans opened it up to wash it and reclaim the coal.
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Re: Hot open cast

Post #10 by Mark Williams » Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:34 am

Hello Everyone,
Graham Hillman & Fred Evans must remember the burning tip @ Mountain Ash in South Wales.I believe it was worked by Hargreaves.There was a Budge Cat 950B wheel loader on hire there.It was keeping a Power-screen busy.I used to help repair a Seddon Atkinson 8 wheeler lorry that was on contract to that job,owned by Keith Graham transport.
I also remember seeing a Shephard,Hill company magazine of the Furnace Hillock coal site,in Cumbria ,where part of the burning tip was reclaimed.There was a big photo of a Lima 2400 shovel loading molten red hot coal into the skip of an orange Aveling Barford, 50 ton Centaur truck.Has anybody got this photo they would post?
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