JCB3CX stalled under hydraulic load and will not start

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Re: JCB3CX stalled under hydraulic load and will not start

Post #31 by mambo » Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:00 am

Im going to try to keep running on red under this exclusion


Accepted uses for agriculture, horticulture, forestry, fish farming and forestry are explained in the Memorandum of Agreement in Fuels for use in vehicles (Excise Notice 75).

The accepted uses in agriculture that rebated fuel may be used include, the running or participating in off-road outdoor events, which include agricultural events and ploughing matches. These events demonstrate the skills and exhibit the equipment and animals associated with agriculture and animal husbandry.

Within these sectors, rebated fuel is allowed for accepted uses only in:

agricultural vehicles
special vehicles
unlicensed vehicles
mowing machines
certain other machines and appliances

You can use rebated fuel to travel to and from the place where the vehicle has an accepted use, except on public roads in unlicensed vehicles.

You can also use rebated fuel in agricultural vehicles for:

accepted uses relating to agriculture, horticulture, fish farming and forestry
cutting trees, verges and hedges that border public roads
clearing or dealing with frost, ice and snow (including gritting), or flooding

You’ll also be able to use them for any other purpose on private land where they are ordinarily kept.


Hopefully i'm reading that right, I can use red in my unlicenced JCB, Tractor & Road Roller for any other purpose on private land where they are ordinarily kept


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Re: JCB3CX stalled under hydraulic load and will not start

Post #32 by Spancan » Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:42 am

Just had a look at the lift pump filter full of dirt (see pic). Will clean and try again. Did not check it earlier as there wast a powerful jet from the bleed valve on the CAV dpa when the lift pump was pumped manually.


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Post #33 by Spancan » Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:44 am

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Re: JCB3CX stalled under hydraulic load and will not start

Post #34 by Slooby » Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:47 pm

That level of clogging of the lifter filter would certainly not be helping things!

When it comes to a lack of lubrication from modern diesel fuel I add a splash of two stroke oil on each fill up
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Post #35 by dixie-normous » Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:56 pm

Certainly cheaper than ATF. From what i have read the advantage of ATF is it has a detergent in it that cleans the injector nozzles, whether this is true or not I don't know
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Re: JCB3CX stalled under hydraulic load and will not start

Post #36 by gecko.cx » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:00 pm

Without having a good feel for it, ATF serves several functions, while 2st oil is explicitly intended to lubricate mains, big ends, small ends and the rings ... and then get burnt on the way out.
On the face of it, 2st oil would seem to be the most suitable, but finding convincing information is less than easy.


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Re: JCB3CX stalled under hydraulic load and will not start

Post #37 by dixie-normous » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:18 pm

There certainly is alot of conflicting info about addatives. I have read about adding ATF to diesel, but have also read that only older type ATF is suitable as the modern stuff has too many addatives. 2st oil does seem a more reasonable choice, there are those that argue that it produces more carbon build up, which is true in a small 2st engine, but I would have thought that the amount used wouldn't make any difference to a large diesel engine. That story probably comes from someone adding 2 litres of 2st oil to a car tank!
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Re: JCB3CX stalled under hydraulic load and will not start

Post #38 by essexpete » Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:20 pm

Spancan wrote:Image

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Re: JCB3CX stalled under hydraulic load and will not start

Post #39 by essexpete » Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:25 pm

dixie-normous wrote:There certainly is alot of conflicting info about addatives. I have read about adding ATF to diesel, but have also read that only older type ATF is suitable as the modern stuff has too many addatives. 2st oil does seem a more reasonable choice, there are those that argue that it produces more carbon build up, which is true in a small 2st engine, but I would have thought that the amount used wouldn't make any difference to a large diesel engine. That story probably comes from someone adding 2 litres of 2st oil to a car tank!

I have used ATF in a Ford agric engine diesel system that was hunting and stalling when returning to idle. It worked. I have read that some ingredients in ATF could be harmful to diesel system so you pays your money, as it were. Definitely only try it in old style mechanical injection systems.


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Re: JCB3CX stalled under hydraulic load and will not start

Post #40 by gecko.cx » Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:20 pm

dixie-normous wrote:There certainly is alot of conflicting info about addatives.

Isn't there just!
I've just been given 100l of heating oil (about the same weight as diesel) and I've been wondering what, if anything I should add to it before running it in an engine. In my search, I came across this article about adding 2st to low sulphur diesel (the short version is - don't bother).
https://magazine.unsealed4x4.com.au/uns ... sel-part-2

it doesn't help me with the heating oil, so I'll just run it equal parts with regular diesel


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