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Re: 463H scrapers

Post #171 by Rolyd8k » Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:08 pm

The trouble with big loads can lead to big breaks,this 463 cracked through
the main tube,and with the weight wrenching it round and open,if we cant
get it welded back in place it means a new neck,but i know the man to ring
who has welded many a scraper back together ;) :thumbs_up:
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Re: 463H scrapers

Post #172 by nick lamb » Sat Aug 08, 2009 2:32 pm

Heck,I've never seen that happen before :o ,floors ripping up but not that!

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Re: 463H scrapers

Post #173 by John Gaunt » Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:06 pm

That's one serious crack you have there, Roly.
I'd be interested to see pics of the repair job if possible, before, during and after welding up.
I imagine that you'd need a special jig capable of exerting a lot of force to bring the two halves back together so that they can be welded, unless, of course you cut it right through.....what a mess!
In the second, third and fourth pics there is a small hole at the (top) end of the crack, presumably this was drilled to stop the crack going further ?


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Re: 463H scrapers

Post #174 by Rolyd8k » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:12 pm

nicky lamb wrote:Heck,I've never seen that happen before :o ,floors ripping up but not that!

Nicky,yes unusual place to crack,but it seem to start underneath where a hole big
enough to put your hand through had been gassed to drive out a sheave pin
when it was cable operated,our mistake for not welding it back up.


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Re: 463H scrapers

Post #175 by Rolyd8k » Sat Aug 08, 2009 8:22 pm

John Gaunt wrote:That's one serious crack you have there, Roly.
I'd be interested to see pics of the repair job if possible, before, during and after welding up.
I imagine that you'd need a special jig capable of exerting a lot of force to bring the two halves back together so that they can be welded, unless, of course you cut it right through.....what a mess!
In the second, third and fourth pics there is a small hole at the (top) end of the crack, presumably this was drilled to stop the crack going further ?

John,the small hole you see goes with a row of them each side of the tube to
hold two rails for the block to slide each way with apron lift and ejecting a load,
i,ll update when it gets fixed :thumbs_up:

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Re: 463H scrapers

Post #176 by John Gaunt » Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:54 am

Thanks,Roly, I can see the other 'holes' but with their bolts in when I look carefully at the first pic.
I believe that it's standard engineering practice to drill a (small) hole just beyond the end of a crack before welding up. This stops the crack spreading further.
The presence of that hole will have stopped the crack going further, and probably prevented catastrophic failure.

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Re: 463H scrapers

Post #177 by RichardJW~ » Sun Aug 09, 2009 10:54 am

John Gaunt wrote:Thanks,Roly, I can see the other 'holes' but with their bolts in when I look carefully at the first pic.
I believe that it's standard engineering practice to drill a (small) hole just beyond the end of a crack before welding up. This stops the crack spreading further.
The presence of that hole will have stopped the crack going further, and probably prevented catastrophic failure.



I smiled when I read this.....reminded me of the welding tech. lecturer at college who explained this theory and said it was the reason why women have belly-buttons & *******s


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Re: 463H scrapers

Post #178 by Cat-Peter » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:07 pm

Rolyd8k wrote:
catpeter wrote:Hi Roly,
Nice pic's as usuall!
Is the snow gone?
Here we got some white shit last night! :(

Peter

Hi Peter,yes snows gone,but now got rain,but it should,nt hold us up
for too long :)


Hi Roly,
That 463 I posted some pic's of awhile back.....with in 2 week's it will be out earning it's keep!
Just a small job,about 2 week's!
But it's the first scraper job in the Stockholm area for almost 30years, for what I know at least.
Going to take an day of and take some pic's ofcourse!
Maybe even some film.

Cheers, Peter


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Re: 463H scrapers

Post #179 by Rolyd8k » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:14 pm

RichardJW~ wrote:
John Gaunt wrote:Thanks,Roly, I can see the other 'holes' but with their bolts in when I look carefully at the first pic.
I believe that it's standard engineering practice to drill a (small) hole just beyond the end of a crack before welding up. This stops the crack spreading further.
The presence of that hole will have stopped the crack going further, and probably prevented catastrophic failure.



I smiled when I read this.....reminded me of the welding tech. lecturer at college who explained this theory and said it was the reason why women have belly-buttons & *******s

Richard,its a good job they drilled that extra hole :lol: :lol: nice one mate


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Re: 463H scrapers

Post #180 by Rolyd8k » Sun Aug 09, 2009 12:20 pm

Cat-Peter wrote:
Rolyd8k wrote:
catpeter wrote:Hi Roly,
Nice pic's as usuall!
Is the snow gone?
Here we got some white shit last night! :(

Peter

Hi Peter,yes snows gone,but now got rain,but it should,nt hold us up
for too long :)


Hi Roly,
That 463 I posted some pic's of awhile back.....with in 2 week's it will be out earning it's keep!
Just a small job,about 2 week's!
But it's the first scraper job in the Stockholm area for almost 30years, for what I know at least.
Going to take an day of and take some pic's ofcourse!
Maybe even some film.

Cheers, Peter

Peter,good luck with you new job hope it goes well,you will be showing a new way to
eartmoving,please put some pictures up :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:


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