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Couple of forrestry machine's lurking on Cannock Chase

Post #1 by SRB » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:12 pm

I live on the outskirts of Cannock chase (made famous or infamous by the nocturnal activities of Stan Collymore) and used to drive past these couple of machines every day, after many months i finaly remembered my camera and took a couple of shots, not sure about the Kockums does any body on here have any more info on them? But t'other is a Valmet, part of Komatsu?@???

And a couple of pics of the deer that were wandering around.

Took these with me new camera which i am still trying to get to grips with (apparantly my definition of "idiot proof" is vastly different to the salesman's............)

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Re: Couple of forrestry machine's lurking on Cannock Chase

Post #2 by IBH » Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:27 pm

Kockums were absorbed into Volvo BM and Valmet forestry equipment is now owned by Komatsu http://www.komatsuforest.com/
Great pics too :thumbs_up:

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Re: Couple of forrestry machine's lurking on Cannock Chase

Post #3 by kockums850 » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:03 am

Fun to se a classic Kockums ! Great pictuers !!

Kockums was made from around 1964 (licens on Garett skidder) to 1987, then Rauma-Repola Group lay down the manufactor and built in name of ÖSA / Lokomo. Later it been "FMG" Forest machine Group then Timberjack now John Deere.
It´s not absorbed in Komatsu.

Kockums was built in Stensele (SMV) and Söderhamn in Sweden. Many modells have se the days light from Kockums, in Sweden it´s a classic maschine !
In same house after Kockums was gone (in Söderhamn) have Caterpillar made forestrymachines in the end of 90´s then they sold to Ecolog. So today Ecolog made forestymachine there Kockums was made in 80´s. And in the place in Stensele in Sweden, Rottne built forestymachine today ! Rottne also built forestrymachines in the city Rottne.

I have around 6000 salesbroschures on forestrymachines and some of them (arund 200) you can se like pdf-files on http://www1.elmia.se/wood/ take "Elmia Classics" and seach.

Here is little fact about 84-62 (sorry but i only have in on swedish):
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Re: Couple of forrestry machine's lurking on Cannock Chase

Post #4 by DaveS » Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:47 am

Well kockums850, I'm glad to see someone else collects forest machine literature!

But I've got to confess that I've 'only' got a couple of thousand brochures, several hundred photographs, and many hours of video of machines working in the UK. :dizzy:

I did the photography/writing/filming as part of my business for a number of years.

Your site and online brochure archive is amazing! Thanks for taking the time to put it together. :thumbs_up:

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Re: Couple of forrestry machine's lurking on Cannock Chase

Post #5 by adam » Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:12 pm

Do you have some information about Kockums 822 skidder ?? If I remember well it was Kockums 822D ...

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Post #6 by DaveS » Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:45 pm

Hi Adam, welcome to CMN.

The 822 was a processor, the UK Forestry Commission had several, the final one being built from Kockums stock of spares to suit a particular job in Scotland, it was the last one ever built. They were designated GPP822.

Most were lost to fires. Two machines together in one incident. I was involved in rebuilding another following a fire.

The Skidder I knew of was the 821, and only knew of one in the UK, but there were probably more hiding in the woods! :D

Do you have any pictures of the 822 as a skidder?

Jimmi's excellent archive, linked from his post above shows both machines:

822
http://www1.elmia.se/wood/classic/pdf/kockums822proc1978.pdf

821

http://www1.elmia.se/wood/classic/pdf/kockums821lun1971.pdf

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Re: Couple of forrestry machine's lurking on Cannock Chase

Post #7 by adam » Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:09 pm

In 1985 there was 105 of these imported to Poland. It is still used in forests, especially in mountain forests.

I've found such information about Kockums GP822:
"Back in 1977, when this one was built, the GP822 was at the cutting edge of commercial logging in Norther Europe. However, by the mid eighties, specialist harvester machines were combining the felling and processing duties, and the GP822s rapidly lost favor. Many were converted to skidders or forwarders." It's from http://www.uktp.co.uk/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=83.

Sorry for my question, but what does "GP" mean??
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Re: Couple of forrestry machine's lurking on Cannock Chase

Post #8 by DaveS » Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:13 pm

Interesting link there Adam :thumbup:

GP = Gallrings Processor. Swedish I think!

So they were converted to skidders, that's why they don't appear anywhere as a listed manufactured version. Quite a few were imported in to the UK and converted to harvesters by fitting a suitable crane, control system and head.

With the original stroke delimber boom they were one of the only machines that could process Lodge Pole pine, due to it's tendency to grow with a curve in the trunk which defeated contemporary harvesting heads! :lol:

They had two methods of slewing the processor boom - cross-rams like a knuckle boom crane (later versions) or a slew ring, motor and gearbox setup - which was a bit of a nightmare. :dizzy:

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