Benford PS 3000 dumper, are they any good?

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Benford PS 3000 dumper, are they any good?

Post #1 by Robban_C » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:10 am

Hi!

Does anyone know anything about Benford site dumpers?
The one on the pics are said to be a 2002 model having 2300 hours on the clock. Is 2300 hours on a seven year old dumper realistic? That would make 328 h/year. Are they not used more than that?
Are there any weak points on those? Anything that breaks to easily? Anything that I should look out extra carefully for?

What engine and transmission do they have? Converter and power shift? How many gears?
Are the engine and transmission reliable? Expensive to repair? How long will they run?
I´m mostly worried about the transmission, an engine can always be repaired or changed but some transmissions are very expensive to repair.

Are there any differential locks?

This one is rated as a 3 ton dumper, are they sturdy enough to take some beating or are 3 ton the absolute limit?
What about the turntable for the skip, is it reliable?

What do they cost in similar age/condition in the UK? This one costs 49 000:- SEK, that would be about 3500 - 4000 £.

Don´t worry about the buckets. They´re probably not included. :)


I think that I could use a similar dumper on some of my jobs. My requirements would be:
*4wd
*Articulated steering
*Swivel skip
*Converter with power shift or hydrostatic transmission
*High tip would be nice but this one doesn´t have high tip. That would be a possible future conversion.
Anything else that I would require?

Anything else that I need to know?
As allways, all help is appreciated.


Here´s the ad:
http://www.blocket.se/lund/Dumper_3_ton ... ?ca=12&w=3


Lots of questions but those site dumpers are (and most of all has been) very seldom seen in Sweden so we don´t know anything about them at all. They are very rare species here! :mrgreen:
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Re: Benford PS 3000 dumper, are they any good?

Post #2 by Robban_C » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:21 am

Here is an older (but cheaper) one:
http://www.blocket.se/lund/Dumper_3_ton ... ?ca=12&w=3
The ad says that it has a dry clutch whitch tells me that it has a manual transmission. That tells us that it is really old?
And it looks quite beaten up under the new glossy paint, doesn´t it?

This one is quite new but costs a lot of money:
http://www.blocket.se/skaraborg/Terex_P ... ?ca=12&w=3

A 3 ton Benford in my own home town:
http://www.blocket.se/sodermanland/Midj ... ?ca=12&w=3
But it hasn´t a swivel skip.

A 6 ton Benford, the same seller in my home town:
http://www.blocket.se/sodermanland/Midj ... ?ca=12&w=3
Beaten skip.
But I think that a 6 ton dumper would be to big for my use. A 3 ton ahs about the same width as my EC45 so they would make a nice couple at narrow workplaces.

A 6 ton Neuson with swivel skip:
http://www.blocket.se/lund/Dumper_6_ton ... ?ca=12&w=3
The same seller as for the green one in my previous post. But to big.
The front prop shaft seems to be very exposed?

A 3 ton Benford:
http://www.blocket.se/lund/Dumper_3_ton ... ?ca=12&w=3
The same seller as the green one but lots of concrete in the skip.



And a funny ad:
http://www.blocket.se/sodermanland/Bill ... ?ca=12&w=3
One of the sentences says that "It looks like new but that´s an optical illusion". :mrgreen:

And this one is funny as well:
http://www.blocket.se/sodermanland/Mini ... ?ca=12&w=3
One of the sentences (about it loosing its cooling water):
"Our fitter neither knows how to read the clock or the calendar. Just promises. :mrgreen:


Ok, guys and dolls, I could really need some input on this subject and I know that some of you know much more about site dumpers than I do.
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Re: Benford PS 3000 dumper, are they any good?

Post #3 by d4c24a » Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:39 am

benford has been taken over by terex ,and are good dumpers
dumpers get abused on uk sites :lol: and hardly ever see a grease gun
only transmission trouble i have encountered have been electrical
many have a 3 or 4 speed transmission with forwards reverse shuttle
the first one you have pictured ,would be an ex "A" plant machine and would be self drive hire ,perkins engine ,no diff locks
as for the price it seems about right
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Re: Benford PS 3000 dumper, are they any good?

Post #4 by Robban_C » Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:44 pm

Thanks Graham!
I know that Terex/Benford are the same:
http://www.terex.com/main.php?obj=categ ... d&nav=prod
I have found the Swedish importer and will ask them about spare parts availability, a very important matter! :think:

Electrical problems isn´t any problems at all as the electrics on those has got to be very simple and I´m good at repairing electrics.

d4c24a wrote:... many have a 3 or 4 speed transmission with forwards reverse shuttle ...

That´s a converter with power shift, isn´t it? Just like the early Volvo articulated wheel loaders (before the APS, Automatic Power Shift).
In such a case it is a good transmission system. Efficient, easy and smooth to drive.

"self drive hire" is ok by me and I know what it means. Just put any unemployed carpenter at the steering wheel of a hired machine. :mrgreen:
And Perkins engine can´t be wrong, they have a very godd reputation as far as I know.

d4c24a wrote:... ex "A" plant machine ...

Now that made me confused. Do you talk about a hiring company? Is it the green colour that tells you about a specific company? Not that it matter in such case, I just got confused.

Thanks alot Graham! :thumbup: :bow:
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Post #5 by d4c24a » Sun Nov 15, 2009 2:06 pm

d4c24a wrote:... ex "A" plant machine ...

Now that made me confused. Do you talk about a hiring company? Is it the green colour that tells you about a specific company? Not that it matter in such case, I just got confused.

Thanks alot Graham! :thumbup: :bow:[/quote]

yes robban A plant is a hire co who paint everything green :mrgreen:
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Post #6 by Robban_C » Sun Nov 15, 2009 5:34 pm

Ah, just as I thought.

Thanks again Graham! :thumbup:
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Re: Benford PS 3000 dumper, are they any good?

Post #7 by Robban_C » Tue Nov 17, 2009 12:20 am

This dumper (the green one) has been sold but I´m looking for another one so your help (Graham) will be of big help sooner or later anyway. :thumbup:
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Post #8 by XS650 » Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:50 am

I'm not a mechanic but all dumpers on the British market are built very tough and strong , they have to be because they get a very hard life on UK sites usually being driven by the trainee or untrainable. :D
Lots of questions but those site dumpers are (and most of all has been) very seldom seen in Sweden so we don´t know anything about them at all. They are very rare species here

What do you use instead ? say in this situation digging out a pond and diposing of the earth about 100m away. Dumpers seem almost indispensable on British sites .attachment=0]jcb 803 terex dumper.JPG[/attachment]
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Re: Benford PS 3000 dumper, are they any good?

Post #9 by Robban_C » Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:56 pm

Hi Craig!
At a distance of 100 m I would prefer to use my hook lift trailer (if it would fit, it is 2,55 m wide).
Wheel loaders is another way to go but at 100 m? Almost to far for a wheel loader if you ask me.

But I´m sure that a site dumper would be useful. I will keep reading the ads and see what turns up next.



That´s a swivel skip dumper on yor picture, isn´t it?
What load capacity is it? 3 ton?


Am I right in thinking that a 3 ton dumper would be right size for working with my 4,5 ton digger? The digger is 1,85 m wide and the 3 ton dumpers are about the same width so I thought that it would be the perfect size. If the digger can fit into a working place the dumper can.

Am I right in thinking that I should have a swivel skip or are there to many drawbacks with swivelling skips? As I have understood from this broschure the swivelling skips have higher dumping heights, hopefully so high that I could dump directly into my hook lift bed (about 0,9 m high sides when on the ground).
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Post #10 by XS650 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:43 am

Yes I think so , especially on short hauls say up to 50m ,the dumper in the pic above is a Terex PS6000 6tonne.
THe swivel skip is very usefull and the tip height is much higher than the normal skip. Their are no drawbacks as far as i know and we always hire swivel skips .
Looking at the specification sheet for the Terex PS3000 3tonnne dumper the tip height is 1100mm against 250mm for the normal skip. These pics although different makes show the different heights .
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