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FOWLER MAN · **Posted:** Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:35 am

Hello
How did we ever manage with these old 2 wheel drive dumps?
Here are a few photographic reminders.

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newjcb123uk · **Posted:** Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:00 pm

I think the weather was always better in the "good old days" sigh

Site Admin · **Posted:** Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:37 pm

Funny, Volvo BM had a similar construction.

DaveS · **Posted:** Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:15 pm

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Thanks for posting those Fred!

FOWLER MAN wrote:

Hello
How did we ever manage with these old 2 wheel drive dumps?
Here are a few photographic reminders

The answer lies in the fact that they were better than what was used before

When you look at the concept it was a quantum leap in 1958 - for instance it used the same power unit as the Muir-Hill dumpers of the day, but carted far more. With the weight transfer hitch and air brakes allowing bigger payloads, with better control and safety than using a 'normal' tractor and trailer combo.

They did need a bit of help in the traction department now and again :oops:

but there was the factory option of six-wheel drive with a County (with torque convertor) on the front and a hydraulic drive axle on the trailer.

Dave. S.

XS650 · **Posted:** Wed Feb 17, 2010 7:17 pm

They were cheap to buy and run as well , compared to a 10te payload dump truck or tipper lorry.

modelman093 · **Posted:** Wed Feb 17, 2010 10:50 pm

DaveS wrote:

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Thanks for posting those Fred!

FOWLER MAN wrote:

Hello
How did we ever manage with these old 2 wheel drive dumps?
Here are a few photographic reminders

The answer lies in the fact that they were better than what was used before

When you look at the concept it was a quantum leap in 1958 - for instance it used the same power unit as the Muir-Hill dumpers of the day, but carted far more. With the weight transfer hitch and air brakes allowing bigger payloads, with better control and safety than using a 'normal' tractor and trailer combo.

They did need a bit of help in the traction department now and again :oops:

but there was the factory option of six-wheel drive with a County (with torque convertor) on the front and a hydraulic drive axle on the trailer.

Dave. S.

When the road between Calais and Boulogne was being upgraded in conjunction with the Channel Tunnel construction I noticed that one of the contractors had a fleet similar dump trailers connected to 4-wheel drive Renault tractors - presumably an industrial version of their agricultural tractors. Never got close enough to them to see if the trailer wheels were powered.
Angus

DaveS · **Posted:** Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:01 am

modelman093 wrote:

When the road between Calais and Boulogne was being upgraded in conjunction with the Channel Tunnel construction I noticed that one of the contractors had a fleet similar dump trailers connected to 4-wheel drive Renault tractors - presumably an industrial version of their agricultural tractors. Never got close enough to them to see if the trailer wheels were powered.
Angus

Hi Angus,

Steve (Neversweat) posted a couple of pics of Renaults with driven axle dump trailers in a thread here:
http://www.classicmachinery.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3807&p=32170&hilit=renault#p32170

but they may be older than the type you saw?

Dave. S.

modelman093 · **Posted:** Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:41 am

DaveS wrote:

modelman093 wrote:

When the road between Calais and Boulogne was being upgraded in conjunction with the Channel Tunnel construction I noticed that one of the contractors had a fleet similar dump trailers connected to 4-wheel drive Renault tractors - presumably an industrial version of their agricultural tractors. Never got close enough to them to see if the trailer wheels were powered.
Angus

Hi Angus,

Steve (Neversweat) posted a couple of pics of Renaults with driven axle dump trailers in a thread here:
http://www.classicmachinery.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3807&p=32170&hilit=renault#p32170

but they may be older than the type you saw?

Dave. S.

Hi Dave,
Similar, but my recollection is that the units that I saw had twin axle trailers and oversize lugged tyres on the tractor front axles - but it was a while ago!
Angus

XS650 · **Posted:** Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:54 am

Fordson Major in grainy colour....

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Cat Tracks · **Posted:** Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:46 pm

They bring back memories of St.Neots by-pass, 1986! A well known Essex earthmover had a few to top soil batters.
Great way to get into the business then. Once you showed a bit of promise it was onto the Volvo 861 then the "majestic"
Volvo 5350 which as you can imagine was a huge step. I remember the Shawnee Poole as draughty, noisy and cold but at least it was a start. Could you get anyone to sit on one these days??
Regards Pete H.

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